same_old_guy
05-24 02:32 PM
This subject is treated as an elaborate chapter titled "The quiet crisis" in Friedman's book "The world is flat". A very good read. Here is an extremely well written article on education crisis staring at the US. It also touches on the broken immigration system.
Feel free to discuss but kindly refrain from making extreme and judgmental statements.
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Credits: Thomas L. Friedman (NY Times). All rights reserved. Article has been reproduced in its entirety.
The quiet crisis in US education
By Thomas L. Friedman
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry. I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, one of America�s great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of them PhD students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was handed their doctorate � in biotechnology, computing, physics and engineering � by the school�s president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly minted PhDs at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign names kept coming � "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" � I thought that the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese, until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what Ms Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don�t get me wrong. I�m proud that our country continues to build universities and a culture of learning that attract the world�s best minds. My complaint � why I also wanted to cry � was that there wasn�t someone from the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to Ms Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born PhDs. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and innovation here.
If we can�t educate enough of our own kids to compete at this level, we�d better make sure we can import someone else�s, otherwise we will not maintain our standard of living. It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders � as wide as possible � to attract and keep the world�s first-round intellectual draft choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools and the key differentiator is human talent. I�m serious. I think any foreign student who gets a PhD in our country � in any subject � should be offered citizenship. I want them. The idea that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here. Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we�re not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace. Silicon Valley is living proof of that � and where innovation happens, matters. It�s still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can�t keep being stupid about these things. You can�t have a world where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools, research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go back to their home countries to start companies � without it eventually impacting our standard of living � especially when we�re also slipping behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our digital deficits and divides. (See: www.techpresident.com.) Mr Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child Connected."
Here�s the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost all the oxygen in this country � oxygen needed to discuss seriously education, healthcare, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book The First Campaign, which deals with this theme. So right now, it�s mostly governors talking about these issues, noted Mr Graff, but there is only so much they can do without Washington being focused and leading. Which is why we�ve got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the quickest, least bad way possible � otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and America. It�s coming down to that choice.
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Feel free to discuss but kindly refrain from making extreme and judgmental statements.
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Credits: Thomas L. Friedman (NY Times). All rights reserved. Article has been reproduced in its entirety.
The quiet crisis in US education
By Thomas L. Friedman
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry. I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, one of America�s great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of them PhD students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was handed their doctorate � in biotechnology, computing, physics and engineering � by the school�s president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly minted PhDs at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign names kept coming � "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" � I thought that the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese, until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what Ms Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don�t get me wrong. I�m proud that our country continues to build universities and a culture of learning that attract the world�s best minds. My complaint � why I also wanted to cry � was that there wasn�t someone from the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to Ms Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born PhDs. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and innovation here.
If we can�t educate enough of our own kids to compete at this level, we�d better make sure we can import someone else�s, otherwise we will not maintain our standard of living. It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders � as wide as possible � to attract and keep the world�s first-round intellectual draft choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools and the key differentiator is human talent. I�m serious. I think any foreign student who gets a PhD in our country � in any subject � should be offered citizenship. I want them. The idea that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here. Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we�re not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace. Silicon Valley is living proof of that � and where innovation happens, matters. It�s still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can�t keep being stupid about these things. You can�t have a world where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools, research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go back to their home countries to start companies � without it eventually impacting our standard of living � especially when we�re also slipping behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our digital deficits and divides. (See: www.techpresident.com.) Mr Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child Connected."
Here�s the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost all the oxygen in this country � oxygen needed to discuss seriously education, healthcare, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book The First Campaign, which deals with this theme. So right now, it�s mostly governors talking about these issues, noted Mr Graff, but there is only so much they can do without Washington being focused and leading. Which is why we�ve got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the quickest, least bad way possible � otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and America. It�s coming down to that choice.
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amitga
10-26 10:27 AM
Hi Seniros
My 6th year h1b is expiring on April 30, 2008. I applied labor through PERM on October 1, 2007. How to stay legal in this country until approval of 140. Converting to F1 or B2 will cause any problems to green card process. Please advice.
Thank you
Take a five month vacation between now and Apr 30, 2008 and go back to you home country for five months.. Then get you H1 extended for Five month after Apr 30, 2008 till Oct1, 2007. Then apply for extension on Oct 1, 2007. I think this might work. Check with your Attorney.
My 6th year h1b is expiring on April 30, 2008. I applied labor through PERM on October 1, 2007. How to stay legal in this country until approval of 140. Converting to F1 or B2 will cause any problems to green card process. Please advice.
Thank you
Take a five month vacation between now and Apr 30, 2008 and go back to you home country for five months.. Then get you H1 extended for Five month after Apr 30, 2008 till Oct1, 2007. Then apply for extension on Oct 1, 2007. I think this might work. Check with your Attorney.
permfiling
10-28 05:20 PM
How long did it take for the I-797 after the approval of 485? Which service center was this at?
It took about 4 days. Mine was filed at CSC and transferred to Nebraska Service Center
It took about 4 days. Mine was filed at CSC and transferred to Nebraska Service Center
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02-10 01:43 PM
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wahwah
06-03 01:03 AM
why do you say that the audit is for pending applications only?
the news article says that they are auditing all PERM applications filed by Fragomen, which means that pending and approved applications will be audited. The article doesn't mention the timeframe either.
audit is only on pending applications..i dont think it is on certified..
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the news article says that they are auditing all PERM applications filed by Fragomen, which means that pending and approved applications will be audited. The article doesn't mention the timeframe either.
audit is only on pending applications..i dont think it is on certified..
also they may process fugmon cases fase..hope they dont denied any..
what is supervised recruitment
Robert Kumar
02-12 02:51 PM
Why dont you consider one of attorney offices that provide free call services to IV members. That would help you as well as help IV community. May be you can consider Prashanthi Reddy or Raj at Shusterman or Siskind Law firm.
I would love to, as it will help IV community also, but unfortunately it is not very easy in a company to request change of lawyer when the lawyer is good one. I see from many comments here that the Chugh Firm is a good one. And the employer also feels the same. So what grounds can I request them change their processes which they are following for nearly 200 employees. It will be hard. Cant even ask..
I would love to, as it will help IV community also, but unfortunately it is not very easy in a company to request change of lawyer when the lawyer is good one. I see from many comments here that the Chugh Firm is a good one. And the employer also feels the same. So what grounds can I request them change their processes which they are following for nearly 200 employees. It will be hard. Cant even ask..
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uscis_prob
08-15 06:44 PM
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the response. I consulted attorney murthy, who advised me to file I-140 & I-485 again , explaining all the facts.
Attorney just put all the documents of denial, the MTR and the new I-140 application along with 485 with a cover letter that the denial was what we consider is erroroneous, so refiling with a copy of labor. I have to wait and see what happens.
Its rather a tense moment as I am on my 7th year extension.
Thanks for the response. I consulted attorney murthy, who advised me to file I-140 & I-485 again , explaining all the facts.
Attorney just put all the documents of denial, the MTR and the new I-140 application along with 485 with a cover letter that the denial was what we consider is erroroneous, so refiling with a copy of labor. I have to wait and see what happens.
Its rather a tense moment as I am on my 7th year extension.
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laborpains
12-09 03:35 PM
At last my turn comes in January.....now the real fight begins.....any information abt how to get name check status....etc. my FP was done in Sep 2007....did not receive any new FP request...any insight on that gurus.
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EB-3-I
PD:Jan 31st 2002
Hey Dask, I am a 31 JAN 2002 PD too! Did not not receive any FP notice recently.
Happy holidays
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PD:Jan 31st 2002
Hey Dask, I am a 31 JAN 2002 PD too! Did not not receive any FP notice recently.
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pappu
06-16 09:22 PM
Good comparison. if you have more informatiion, do add to this thread.
COMPARISON OF ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS VERSUS CONSULAR PROCESSING
The purpose of this page is to address the advantages and disadvantages of Adjustment of Status and Consular Processing. There are various factors that need to be considered, including the procedures, the cost, the time and the risks involved in each process.
I. TIME
Generally, Adjustment of Status Applications take about 12-15 months to be approved by the INS. In most cases, Consular Processing takes approximately 6 to 9 months, depending on which US Consulate is chosen.
II. CONSULATE NOTIFICATION
The decision to consular process often turns on the issue of whether the overseas consulate will accept an application without notification from the INS via the National Visa Center (NVC). At present only a handful of Consulates will accept such an application. The usual course calls for the INS to send notice of the approval of the I-140 to the NVC in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, which then notifies the particular consulate.
From time to time, an I-824 is required in order to Consular Process. In these scenarios, Consular processing takes in excess of one year and is almost never a good option. Because some consulates are realizing that the I-824 processing times at the Service Centers are unreasonably lengthy, several Consulates have opted to allow consular processing in their discretion without the requirement of the notification from the NVC. Under this process, the AC I-140 (attorney certified I-140), the attorney directly sends the Consulate a certified copy of the I-140 approval notice.
There are a few things to keep in mind if you choose the AC I-140 process. First, not all consulates recognize it. Second, some Consulates may later switch to an approach where they demand the I-824. Third, some of the consulates who do accept ACI-140 do so only on grounds of hardship, such as the aging out of a child.
III. 180 DAY PORTABILITY RULE
Persons whose I-485s have been pending at the INS for 180 days or longer are ordinarily eligible to transfer to a new employer without abandoning their I-485 Adjustment of Status Application. The rules surrounding the 180 Day Portability are new and can be complex. However, the Portability rule can provide great relief to employees who are concerned that future lay-offs or Reductions In Force may cause their permanent Residency Applications to fail. Because of several liberalized I-485 rules, it usually a poor choice to opt for Consular Processing.
IV. LOCAL ISSUES
Each consulate has its own nuances. Most U.S. Consulates require police certificates for all applicants 16 years or older covering all periods that they have resided in a foreign country. This requirement does not exist in the case of adjustment of status. The consular officers also require a certified copy of any military records, whereas this is not required in adjustment of status applications. The consulate in Manila will only accept birth certificates issued by the National Statistics Office. A person who does not have all the documents at the time of the interview will need to appear for a second interview.
In all cases however, the medical exams have to be completed by a designated doctor in that country. In London, the medical exams are completed the same day as the interview. However, in Johannesburg, Chennai, and Mumbai, the medical exams have to be completed at least two weeks before the interview. Essentially, this means the employee will need to spend approximately three weeks overseas or will require two trips overseas.
In most cases, interview notices are generated approximately 30 days prior to the actual interview. As a practical matter, families need to depart the U.S. immediately upon receipt of an interview notice in order to have plenty of time to complete the medical exam.
In addition to the general procedural differences between the two processes, there are more stringent requirements in consular processing. For example, it is generally easier to obtain waivers of certain medical grounds for exclusion, such as HIV, if you are Adjusting.
V. COSTS
Another issue that should be analyzed is the cost associated with each process. The major monetary difference is travel costs. Plainly, you only need to pay for a flight overseas if you are Consular processing. This can be burdensome and costly where there are several family members.
Another factor that may indirectly affect the costs to the employer and employee is the time that will be required to be spent outside of the United States. During the adjustment of status process, a person can continue their employment in the United States while the case is processing. In consular processing cases, they are required to be out of the U.S. for approximately a month, assuming no problems arise in their case. If problems do arise in their case, they may need to stay overseas longer than anticipated. Alternatively, they could, in most cases, come back to the U.S. but would need to travel to the consulate again for a follow-up interview. Obviously, this adds to additional time away from work and additional expenses. In addition, for employees who have school age children, this would require the child's absence from school.
VI. RISKS
The major factor in deciding whether to choose adjustment of status or consular processing is the risk involved. By far, consular processing is much more risky than the adjustment of status process. First, consular processing provides less opportunity for attorney assistance. In the adjustment of status process, the attorneys prepare the application and file it with the INS. If the INS has a Request for Additional Evidence or any issues in the case, the information is sent to the attorney at which time the attorney can review the issues with the client and submit a response. In consular processing, the consulates do not allow the person to be represented by an attorney during the interview. Sometimes the attorney can stay in the waiting room and address any questions that the applicant has, but is not allowed to actually represent them at the interview.
Second, consular processing involves a personal interview whereas the adjustment of status does not. Of course, any time that there is a personal interview, there is more risk that the applicant will say something unfavorable to his case. It also provides the officer with more time to go in depth into the applicant's immigration history or any issues of excludability. For example, if the employee's job title or job duties have changed at all since the filing of the labor certification then there is more of a chance that the consulate will focus on this issue and could deny the application. In contrast, in adjustment of status the INS does not delve into the exact job duties, (e.g. specific tools, utilities, software) but rather focuses on the job title, salary, and whether there is a continued offer of employment.
Third, consular officers sometimes work with a mindset of distrust because they are accustomed to seeing fraudulent cases. Keep in mind that Manila, Mumbai, and Chennai are high fraud posts.
Fourth, anyone who has been unlawfully present in the United States and is subject to the 3/10 year bar would immediately trigger that bar once he departed the U.S. Clearly, a person in this situation should not even consider consular processing as such as decision would be fatal.
Finally, and most importantly, a denial of a visa at a Consulate post cannot be appealed.
VII. EMPLOYMENT FOR SPOUSES
Spouses can obtain employment authorization while their Application for Adjustment of Status is pending at the INS. They are ineligible for work authorization while their Consular Processing Application is pending.
VIII. CONCLUSION
In sum, consular processing can be advantageous in some situations. However, the decision to do consular processing should be made on a case-by-case basis based upon the particular consulate and the facts of each case. Ordinarily, Adjustment of Status is the better approach.
COMPARISON OF ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS VERSUS CONSULAR PROCESSING
The purpose of this page is to address the advantages and disadvantages of Adjustment of Status and Consular Processing. There are various factors that need to be considered, including the procedures, the cost, the time and the risks involved in each process.
I. TIME
Generally, Adjustment of Status Applications take about 12-15 months to be approved by the INS. In most cases, Consular Processing takes approximately 6 to 9 months, depending on which US Consulate is chosen.
II. CONSULATE NOTIFICATION
The decision to consular process often turns on the issue of whether the overseas consulate will accept an application without notification from the INS via the National Visa Center (NVC). At present only a handful of Consulates will accept such an application. The usual course calls for the INS to send notice of the approval of the I-140 to the NVC in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, which then notifies the particular consulate.
From time to time, an I-824 is required in order to Consular Process. In these scenarios, Consular processing takes in excess of one year and is almost never a good option. Because some consulates are realizing that the I-824 processing times at the Service Centers are unreasonably lengthy, several Consulates have opted to allow consular processing in their discretion without the requirement of the notification from the NVC. Under this process, the AC I-140 (attorney certified I-140), the attorney directly sends the Consulate a certified copy of the I-140 approval notice.
There are a few things to keep in mind if you choose the AC I-140 process. First, not all consulates recognize it. Second, some Consulates may later switch to an approach where they demand the I-824. Third, some of the consulates who do accept ACI-140 do so only on grounds of hardship, such as the aging out of a child.
III. 180 DAY PORTABILITY RULE
Persons whose I-485s have been pending at the INS for 180 days or longer are ordinarily eligible to transfer to a new employer without abandoning their I-485 Adjustment of Status Application. The rules surrounding the 180 Day Portability are new and can be complex. However, the Portability rule can provide great relief to employees who are concerned that future lay-offs or Reductions In Force may cause their permanent Residency Applications to fail. Because of several liberalized I-485 rules, it usually a poor choice to opt for Consular Processing.
IV. LOCAL ISSUES
Each consulate has its own nuances. Most U.S. Consulates require police certificates for all applicants 16 years or older covering all periods that they have resided in a foreign country. This requirement does not exist in the case of adjustment of status. The consular officers also require a certified copy of any military records, whereas this is not required in adjustment of status applications. The consulate in Manila will only accept birth certificates issued by the National Statistics Office. A person who does not have all the documents at the time of the interview will need to appear for a second interview.
In all cases however, the medical exams have to be completed by a designated doctor in that country. In London, the medical exams are completed the same day as the interview. However, in Johannesburg, Chennai, and Mumbai, the medical exams have to be completed at least two weeks before the interview. Essentially, this means the employee will need to spend approximately three weeks overseas or will require two trips overseas.
In most cases, interview notices are generated approximately 30 days prior to the actual interview. As a practical matter, families need to depart the U.S. immediately upon receipt of an interview notice in order to have plenty of time to complete the medical exam.
In addition to the general procedural differences between the two processes, there are more stringent requirements in consular processing. For example, it is generally easier to obtain waivers of certain medical grounds for exclusion, such as HIV, if you are Adjusting.
V. COSTS
Another issue that should be analyzed is the cost associated with each process. The major monetary difference is travel costs. Plainly, you only need to pay for a flight overseas if you are Consular processing. This can be burdensome and costly where there are several family members.
Another factor that may indirectly affect the costs to the employer and employee is the time that will be required to be spent outside of the United States. During the adjustment of status process, a person can continue their employment in the United States while the case is processing. In consular processing cases, they are required to be out of the U.S. for approximately a month, assuming no problems arise in their case. If problems do arise in their case, they may need to stay overseas longer than anticipated. Alternatively, they could, in most cases, come back to the U.S. but would need to travel to the consulate again for a follow-up interview. Obviously, this adds to additional time away from work and additional expenses. In addition, for employees who have school age children, this would require the child's absence from school.
VI. RISKS
The major factor in deciding whether to choose adjustment of status or consular processing is the risk involved. By far, consular processing is much more risky than the adjustment of status process. First, consular processing provides less opportunity for attorney assistance. In the adjustment of status process, the attorneys prepare the application and file it with the INS. If the INS has a Request for Additional Evidence or any issues in the case, the information is sent to the attorney at which time the attorney can review the issues with the client and submit a response. In consular processing, the consulates do not allow the person to be represented by an attorney during the interview. Sometimes the attorney can stay in the waiting room and address any questions that the applicant has, but is not allowed to actually represent them at the interview.
Second, consular processing involves a personal interview whereas the adjustment of status does not. Of course, any time that there is a personal interview, there is more risk that the applicant will say something unfavorable to his case. It also provides the officer with more time to go in depth into the applicant's immigration history or any issues of excludability. For example, if the employee's job title or job duties have changed at all since the filing of the labor certification then there is more of a chance that the consulate will focus on this issue and could deny the application. In contrast, in adjustment of status the INS does not delve into the exact job duties, (e.g. specific tools, utilities, software) but rather focuses on the job title, salary, and whether there is a continued offer of employment.
Third, consular officers sometimes work with a mindset of distrust because they are accustomed to seeing fraudulent cases. Keep in mind that Manila, Mumbai, and Chennai are high fraud posts.
Fourth, anyone who has been unlawfully present in the United States and is subject to the 3/10 year bar would immediately trigger that bar once he departed the U.S. Clearly, a person in this situation should not even consider consular processing as such as decision would be fatal.
Finally, and most importantly, a denial of a visa at a Consulate post cannot be appealed.
VII. EMPLOYMENT FOR SPOUSES
Spouses can obtain employment authorization while their Application for Adjustment of Status is pending at the INS. They are ineligible for work authorization while their Consular Processing Application is pending.
VIII. CONCLUSION
In sum, consular processing can be advantageous in some situations. However, the decision to do consular processing should be made on a case-by-case basis based upon the particular consulate and the facts of each case. Ordinarily, Adjustment of Status is the better approach.
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09-17 12:17 PM
Same situation here. As per my lawyer (good lawyer can be trusted but could be ill informed) If my wife doesn't join the employer there is no status change. No need to file any reinstatement from H4 to H1. And I have reconfirmed this a couple of times now.
If you hear anything different from a legit source please do let me know.
Other relevant details in my case is that my wife's ead/ap application was filed on 2nd July. and She is under Adjustment of Status (485) as a derivative. On a second thought, I am not sure if this is the same case as yours.
I am pretty sure your lawyer is wrong. Many lawyers assume the same rule of H-1 to H-1 transfer applies everywhere which is not the case. A change of status is not the same as H-1 to H-1.
A H-4 to H-1 will take effect on October 1st. The surest way to not let this happen is if she has a valid H-4 visa stamp. She can get out of the country on Sep 30 and return back on Oct 02 as H-4.
The other alternative is to apply for a H-1 to H-4 status change and wait it out. This status change is not effective until approval which can take a while. Meanwhile she will be on H-1 without pay which is not good.
There may be a third choice where the employer cancels the H-1b as she does not intend to join. Then she is in 485 status from October 1st and can apply for a h-4 extension. But this option has to be confirmed by a $450-for-15-mins attorney. If this works, this is the simplest and cheapest option (minus the attorney fee)
If you hear anything different from a legit source please do let me know.
Other relevant details in my case is that my wife's ead/ap application was filed on 2nd July. and She is under Adjustment of Status (485) as a derivative. On a second thought, I am not sure if this is the same case as yours.
I am pretty sure your lawyer is wrong. Many lawyers assume the same rule of H-1 to H-1 transfer applies everywhere which is not the case. A change of status is not the same as H-1 to H-1.
A H-4 to H-1 will take effect on October 1st. The surest way to not let this happen is if she has a valid H-4 visa stamp. She can get out of the country on Sep 30 and return back on Oct 02 as H-4.
The other alternative is to apply for a H-1 to H-4 status change and wait it out. This status change is not effective until approval which can take a while. Meanwhile she will be on H-1 without pay which is not good.
There may be a third choice where the employer cancels the H-1b as she does not intend to join. Then she is in 485 status from October 1st and can apply for a h-4 extension. But this option has to be confirmed by a $450-for-15-mins attorney. If this works, this is the simplest and cheapest option (minus the attorney fee)
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Eternal_Hope
04-07 10:32 AM
Hi, I am in exactly the same situation. Would just the I-140 receipt number suffice? My employer also hasn't given me any copies of the I-140 and labor certification copies. My I-140 is approved and it's been more than 180 days since I-485 filing..please advise.
I am planning to change jobs using the EAD / AC-21 in the next couple of months. To start off the process I wanted to get all the approval notices from the lawyer so that I have all the documents in place before I change jobs.
My employer uses a popular law firm to handle the immigration filing etc. I sent an email to the lawyer asking them to send me a copy of the I-140 approval notice.The lawyer responded that according to my company's internal policy they will not provide me a copy of the I-140 approval notice.
I would like to know the following -
1) Has someone else also faced a similar issue ?
MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.
2) If so , is there a way to get them to send me a copy of th 140 approval notice
NO - EXCEPT IF THEY HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART (GOOD LUCK FINDING LAWYERS WITH HEARTS!)
3) Does the employer by law have the authority to restrict the distribution of the 140 approval notice
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
4) Do I need the 140 approval notice in order to use EAD/AC-21 to change jobs ?
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT AS A REFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE 'REQUEST FOR EVIDENCE' IN THE FUTURE. IN ANY CASE, AFTER 180 DAYS OF 1-485 FILING, AND IF YOUR 1-140 IS ALREADY APPROVED, EVEN IF YOUR EMPLOYER REVOKES THE 1-140 IT DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS APPLICATION.
AS A SIDENOTE - IN ALL LIKELIHOOD YOUR LAWYERS WOULD HAVE INFORMED YOUR EMPLOYER THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR I-140 RECEIPT, THEREBY SENDING A SIGNAL TO YOUR EMPLOYER THAT YOU MAY BE JUMPING THE SHIP SOON!
Thanks
ALL THE BEST!
I am planning to change jobs using the EAD / AC-21 in the next couple of months. To start off the process I wanted to get all the approval notices from the lawyer so that I have all the documents in place before I change jobs.
My employer uses a popular law firm to handle the immigration filing etc. I sent an email to the lawyer asking them to send me a copy of the I-140 approval notice.The lawyer responded that according to my company's internal policy they will not provide me a copy of the I-140 approval notice.
I would like to know the following -
1) Has someone else also faced a similar issue ?
MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.
2) If so , is there a way to get them to send me a copy of th 140 approval notice
NO - EXCEPT IF THEY HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART (GOOD LUCK FINDING LAWYERS WITH HEARTS!)
3) Does the employer by law have the authority to restrict the distribution of the 140 approval notice
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
4) Do I need the 140 approval notice in order to use EAD/AC-21 to change jobs ?
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT AS A REFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE 'REQUEST FOR EVIDENCE' IN THE FUTURE. IN ANY CASE, AFTER 180 DAYS OF 1-485 FILING, AND IF YOUR 1-140 IS ALREADY APPROVED, EVEN IF YOUR EMPLOYER REVOKES THE 1-140 IT DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS APPLICATION.
AS A SIDENOTE - IN ALL LIKELIHOOD YOUR LAWYERS WOULD HAVE INFORMED YOUR EMPLOYER THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR I-140 RECEIPT, THEREBY SENDING A SIGNAL TO YOUR EMPLOYER THAT YOU MAY BE JUMPING THE SHIP SOON!
Thanks
ALL THE BEST!
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maddipati1
07-30 02:02 PM
USCIS updated today (07/30/07), the form 765 and instructions corresponding to 765
go to http://www.uscis.gov, click on 'Immigration Forms' tab, search for '765' and open the EAD link, go to the bottom of this page. now they seperated instructions and form into two separate links.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf ( for instructions )
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765.pdf ( the actual form )
I think they added details about 'where to file'.
The information AditiK was refering on 9th page is now on 12th page.
gcpradeep's interpretation is wrong. danila's interpretation is absolutely right.
Its 30 days for asylum applicants and 90 for all other eligible applicats.
It looks very clear that 485 filers CAN get interimEAD after 90days.
Interim EAD.
If you have not received a decision within90 days of receipt by USCIS of a properly filed EADapplication
or
within 30 days of a properly filed initial EADapplication based on an asylum application filed on or afterJanuary 4, 1995,
you may obtain interim work authorizationby appearing in person at your local USCIS district office.You must bring proof of identity and any notices that you havereceived from USCIS in connection with your application foremployment authorization.
go to http://www.uscis.gov, click on 'Immigration Forms' tab, search for '765' and open the EAD link, go to the bottom of this page. now they seperated instructions and form into two separate links.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf ( for instructions )
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765.pdf ( the actual form )
I think they added details about 'where to file'.
The information AditiK was refering on 9th page is now on 12th page.
gcpradeep's interpretation is wrong. danila's interpretation is absolutely right.
Its 30 days for asylum applicants and 90 for all other eligible applicats.
It looks very clear that 485 filers CAN get interimEAD after 90days.
Interim EAD.
If you have not received a decision within90 days of receipt by USCIS of a properly filed EADapplication
or
within 30 days of a properly filed initial EADapplication based on an asylum application filed on or afterJanuary 4, 1995,
you may obtain interim work authorizationby appearing in person at your local USCIS district office.You must bring proof of identity and any notices that you havereceived from USCIS in connection with your application foremployment authorization.
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njboy
01-18 12:33 PM
Last time there was a recession (2001/2002), INS denied a lot of employment based immigrant petitions because they asked companies why they could not hire American programmers who were laid off. This happened people I personally know from reputed companies such as Sun Microsystems. I don't mean to sound negative, but do you think this will happen again? After being in the queue for so many years, the possibility is real.
logiclife
11-18 12:18 PM
The problem with premium processing of 485 is that there a procedures in 485, like the FBI namecheck, the Fingerprinting etc, that is perfect recipe for bureaucratic nightmare.
USCIS is in the Department of Homeland security. That's where I485 starts. Then comes FBI namecheck. That's US dept of Justice. After that, comes the issue of alloting visa numbers. That is US State Department.
So you have 3 big bodies of US government who have to all work at premium speed IN SYNC with each other, without passing the buck to each other, to make premium processing possible for 485 filing.
As we all know, USCIS that alone handles I140 petitions took years to implement premium I140. Now if 3 entirely different Departments of US govt were to be asked to harmoniously streamline another procedure, then I guess its wish very less likely to come true, EVEN IF they want it as much as we do.
USCIS is in the Department of Homeland security. That's where I485 starts. Then comes FBI namecheck. That's US dept of Justice. After that, comes the issue of alloting visa numbers. That is US State Department.
So you have 3 big bodies of US government who have to all work at premium speed IN SYNC with each other, without passing the buck to each other, to make premium processing possible for 485 filing.
As we all know, USCIS that alone handles I140 petitions took years to implement premium I140. Now if 3 entirely different Departments of US govt were to be asked to harmoniously streamline another procedure, then I guess its wish very less likely to come true, EVEN IF they want it as much as we do.
Legal_In_A_Limbo
04-28 11:43 AM
The thing is it is kind of strange that they are working on Sundays to reopen cases.
I hope things work out for good for everyone.
I hope things work out for good for everyone.
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